í04 SPC PLAYER FEEDBACK
Contestantís individual responds are confidential and randomly identified by letter.
The questions posed are in blue with actual responses in red.†
Many players responding did not respond to all questions.†
All responses are included and unedited except for certain grammar.†
The í04 SPC players responding in alpha order are as follows:
Jeremy Alcorn (from Texas & Baylor)
Brandon Beck (Cal Berkeley from SoCal)
Casey Boyns (mid-am from
Ryan Carter (from SoCal
Brandon Christianson (going
to UCLA from
Bill Coleman (mid-am from SoCal)
Andrew Dresser (from
David Fern (from WA & WSU)
Aaron Goldberg (from
Scott Hardy (St Mary Head Golf Coach)
Taylor Hobin (from
Keith Kinsel (mid-am
Joe Lanza (from WA, played for St Maryís)
Spencer Levin (from Elk Grove & UNM)
Dustin Mills (from
Mark Modglin (from SoCal
Taylor Neal (from SoCal)
Brian OíFlaherty (from SoCal & Pepperdine)
Jason Preeo (UOP Head Golf Coach)
Eric Restrepo (from UC Davis)
Doug Sager (mid-am from
Jason Stone (mid-am from
Peter Tomasulo (from Long Beach & Cal Bears)
Brent Viboch (from
Greg Wells (from Glendora & UCSB)
1) Whatís your opinion of the Bayonet course?:
Player A: great course. The greens were not in great shape, but they got better as the week went on.
Player B: Absolutely awesome golf course.† Almost the best Iíve ever played....fell in love with it despite bad golf
Player C: A true, true test of golf
D: Honestly, a true test, but not an enjoyable one. It's not a
scenic as other
†††††††††††††††† Never lets up for a breather, and the greens take time to figure out.
Player E: The course was great, hard, and good.
Player F: Very difficult. Good site; the player playing the best golf won.
Player G: Great golf course; a little bit too hard for the way I was playing.
Player H: it was alright; much different type of golf course than I like and a little different than I'm used to.
Player I:† I loved it. A great test of golf and great location.
Player J: The course itself is a great place to host an event but hope I never need to see it again.
Player K: tough course, good test
Player L: Great for Tournament
Player M: DIFFICULT. Would like to play it more to fairly judge it. Definitely wasn't a bad choice.
Player N: The course was absolutely wonderful and a great test of golf for a championship.
Player O, Z: great venue
Player P: good course
Player Q: The course was a true test of golf.
Player S: awesome.. except for the bumpy greens at times which made it difficult to putt.† other than that... awesome course
Player T: Bayonet is challenging and a good track
Player U: Awesome
Player V: "10"
Player X: I like the course, very tough but for the most part fair.
Player Y: Love it!
Player II: Great course, probably the hardest Iíve ever played
Player III: tough course, very demanding off the tee
Player AA: The course is perfect for the event. The course is very difficult and fun to play.
2) Was the course set up appropriately?:
Players A, E, F, K, M, P, U, V, Z: yes
Player B: yes, good tourney setup.
Player C: Yes, very tough.
Player D: Yes, but with one practice round, its very tough to determine which PARTS of the greens are soft and which are harder.
†††††††††††††††† A lotta chance comes into play. The rest of the course was in fantastic condition.
Player H: very much so
Player I:† yes. you even could have been a little more tough on us.
Player J: Aside from some of the pin locations on 3rd round being just crazy
Player L: Fine with me
Player N: The course was set up very appropriately and as fair as possible
Player Q: Some of the pins were a little ridiculous.
Player S: could have been tougher, even though I played like shit
Player T: Course was set up well
Player X: Yea, except the last day the pins were all on the fronts of the greens it seemed like and that made if hard with the greens firming up.
Player Y: i think so absolutely
Player II: Yes, tough, rewarded good shots
Player II: yes, greens could have been faster
Player AA: Yes, except for hole #8, which is probably impossible no matter where the pin is located.
3) Was the range set up appropriately?:
Player A: if possible, free range balls during practice rounds
Player B: yes, range balls were average but that is of little importance
Player C: Yes, good range
Players D, E, F, H, K, M, P, Q, S, U, V, X, Y, Z: Yes, yup or sure
Player I:† yes, except you needed a clock on the range to let players know what time it was.† I thought the range was horrible though; bad grass and uphill
Player J: Range was/is just fine nothing special just a range
Player L: Include balls for practice round and after play each day
Player N: The Range was also fine
Player T: Range was good
Player II: Yes, perfect
Player III: during the tournament was fine, but we had to pay for range balls before the tournament started
Player AA: No problem
4) Were the venue facilities adequate?:
Player B: most definitely
Player C: Yes, nice facilities
Players D, E, F, H, I, K, M, P, Q, S, U, V, X, Y, Z, II, III: Yes or yup
Player J: Sure could use some bigger restroom facilities in the main clubhouse unless I just could not find the others aside from down that hall in the front area of the restaurant. And the restrooms on the course are just short of being an outhouse and they for sure should spend some $$$ and fix them up to at least 2004 standards.
Player L, AA: Fine
Player N: The venue and facilities were also very adequate
Player T: facilities were good
5) Were field size & cut lines appropriate?:
Player A: maybe have more players playing the final round. Players could have made a big jump that last day with an even par round and got into the top 10 or 15
Player B: field size was big...i guess thatís ok, cuz thatís how i got in i guess. honestly i donít care for a 2 cut system.....something like a 3 day cut maybe, even 2,† (cutting to last 30 players or so) would be my recommendation
Players C, F, H, K, M, P, U, X, Z, III, AA: Yes
Player D, Y: I thought so.
Player E: There should be just one cut
Player I:† yeah, sort of. I might eliminate the first cut because if you miss that you make that trip only to play one day of golf.
Player J: I never liked events with a cut but after my 3rd round I was toast and ready to go home.
Player L: 4 rounds, 1 Cut, to 45 and ties within 10 and then two more rounds
Player N: The field size was good, but I donít like the fact that there are two cuts; maybe cut at low 48 and ties and only cut once.
Player Q: maybe a little more for the last round.
Player S: yes although its extremely difficult to make the last cut after making the first cut on the number, should be tough but not that tough.
Player T: tough to cut players after one day even though it is 36 holes, and how about 35 for final cut
Player V: Yes, as long as I don't miss cuts
Player Y: i think so
Player II: I thought the cuts were a little extreme, I made them all, but felt I had to play great just to keep playing
6) Any comments on carts?:
Player B: glad to see use the first day...definitely should have to walk last 2
Player C: Carts were very nice the 36 hole day.
Player D: They should be allowed throughout the championship, not just part of it.
Players E, F, M, U, Z: No [comment]
Player G: Why not make everybody walk the entire tourney?
Player H: definitely needed for 36 holes on that course
Player I:† I donít think players should be able to use carts for any round, but Iím just a traditionalist.
Player J: my dad/caddie used a cart and he enjoyed getting to see me play a few rounds of golf as most events donít allow carts and my dad has trouble doing 36 holes in one day , so thanks for the carts.
Player K: kept pace of play moving
Player L: A must for 36 hole day
Player N: I donít like to use carts but on a 36 hole day they are very appropriate
Player P: necessary for the 36 holes
Player S: love em
Player T: carts were fine
Player V: Carts help the speed of play
Player X: I donít think carts should be allowed, for caddies only maybe
Player Y: i think there should be no carts period.....but that's just me
Player II: I liked being allowed to take them
Player III: carts were great because we played so fast. They should be required on the 36 hole day
Player AA: You should probably make everyone walk and forget carts.
7) How was the pace of play?:
Players B, E, F, K, P, Q, V, III: good
Player C: It was very good for a national tournament.
Player D: Pretty good, given the possibilities.
Player G: If you want the best amateur field possible, that means college kids, and pace of play will suck.
Player H: little slow going through the turn at the 1st group
Player I:† it was really good
Player J: No issue for me seemed to move just fine, had about 40 min between rounds and time to eat some lunch.
Player M: A little slow the first 2 rounds
Player N: The pace was fine
Player O: slow play 1st two rounds
Player S: good other then a few slight backups
Player T: pace of play was fine
Player U, Z, AA: fine
Player X: good for the most part
Player Y: acceptable
Player II: awesome, a lot of fun to finally play a fast tourney
8) Did Rules Officials act appropriately?:
Player B: yes, they were very kind actually
Players C, E, H, M, Q, S, U, V, X, II, III: Yes
Player D: Sure
Player F: never needed one
Player I:† yes, perfect!
Player J: Nothing came up with me but I sure was seeing some very generous ball drops due to roots from trees.
Player K: did not apply to me
Player N: Yes, as far as I am concerned
Player P: no, (they need to understand that if I am waiting on the group in front of me I should not be put on the clock)
Player T: rules officials were fine
Player Y: yes, the asian guy....Bob???† I think, was awesome!
Player Z: John is great
Player AA: No problems
9) Any issues with scoring?:
Players B, C, E, H, I, K, N, P, U, V, X, Y, Z, II, III, AA: no or nope
Player D: The leaderboard needed a lil penmanship.
Player F: only with my own game
Player J: Yes I scored to high on 3rd round and my dad had issues with me.
Player L: Good
Player M: I had trouble getting the ball in the hole. I wanted to, but I just couldn't
Player S: no... Spencer is amazing
Player T: scoreboard could have been neater
10) Any issues with exemption criteria?:
Player B: no, thanks for the "red herring" handicap exemption.....hahahaha, hopefully now i can get in now based on a good resume
Player C: Don't weigh somebodies college ranking on how good of a player they are.
Players D, E, F, H, I, K, N, P, U, X, Y, Z, II, III: no or nope
Player J: Sure seemed like you pretty much covered most of it but to be honest my dad took care of my application.
Player M: I am grateful I got one and appreciate it much but thought I should qualify through U.S. Public Links until that wasn't an option for me anymore, but I thought merit exemptions were given to too many weaker golfers. I.E. Me with the scores I shot.
Player S: no.. please accept me next year
Player T: [name of player deleted] should have been in field
Player V: No, as long as I qualify & make the cuts
Player AA: No, I appreciated being invited.
11) Any issues with qualifying criteria?:
Players B, D, E, F, H, I, K, M, N, P, S, U, X, Y, Z, II, III, AA: no, nope or none
Player C: No, its very fair.
Player J: Dad took care of this trying to figure out which event to try and Q through I think he would have liked a simple event where you just say the top 10 or 15 get spots and its that simple and no formulas come into play. He picked LA City as was simple to understand as finish in top 10 then see if any others chooses same location . The Pub links one looked to confusing for him.
Player L: What are the chances you can hold a qualifier of your own to eliminate the hassle you have the few days prior to event.
Player T: qualifying is fine
Player V: Yes
you like the
Player B: yes great area, i had a great time hanging out there
Player C: Love the area.
Player D: Yes, absolutely.
Player E: Very much.
Players F, K, P, S: yes
Player H: i wish i would have gotten to see more of it
Player I, Y, II:† I loved it
Player J: Yes super nice and just a little cold weather for June but really nice area.
Player M: Not as much as the setup at Stevenson
Player N: Yes, very much so.
Player T: I
Player U: of course
Player V: What is not to like?
Player Z: i like it so much that i live here
Player III: very cool
13) Were your accommodations acceptable?:
Player B: yes cheap hotels very nice, a requirement for a poor college kid
Players C, D, F, G, H, P, Q, U, V, X, AA: yes or yep
Player E: I stayed at the Hyatt.† It was fine.
Player I:† yes. I only wish the hotel had a workout facility.
Player J: We stayed at the Hyatt for $43 a night from Priceline so dad was happy.
Player K: moved from host hotel, too noisy
Player M: Absolutely
Player N: Yes, the De Anza was great.
Player S: yes love the hospitality suite
Player T: accommodations were good
Player Y: ya it was fine
Player Z: i hope so
Player II: Yes, would like to have been able to do private housing next time
Player III: excellent, i especially like the Denny's next door
14) Was the SPC conducted properly?:
Players B, E, F, G, H, I, K, N, P, S, U, X, Z, III, AA: yes
Player C: Yes, I liked the hospitality room at the host hotel.
Player D: It was one of the best run tournaments I have ever played. Itís right up there with NCAA Championships.
Player J: No complaints from me or dad on this
Player L: Perhaps start formal check in before practice rounds, practice round day seemed to be chaotic
Player M: Definitely
Player T: spc was conducted well
Player V: Great job
Player Y: totally
Player II: Awesome
15) How convenient was getting to SPC?:
Player B: awesome, absolutely great...shuttle service by Maciel was sooo nice....really a great thing to do in my opinion
Player C: A 5 hour drive.
Players D, I, L, V: fine
Player E: Very convenient.
Players F, M: easy
Drove up 101 from
Player K: very
Player N: Not as convenient as it could be, but the area and the course more than make up for travel convenience.
Player P: yes
Player S: 5 hrs away drive... well worth it even though I missed first cut
Player T: location was convenient
Player U: no problems
Player X: 3 hour drive, not bad at all
Player Y: fine for me, just a 4 hour drive
Player Z: 20 minutes
Player II: very easy, directions from site were good
Player III: the shuttle was easy
Player AA: This
is the only problem for us
16) Was the shuttle service good?:
Player B: see above
Players D, E, F, I, J, K, S, T, U, V, X, Y, Z, II, AA: n/a, did not use, donít know or shuttle service???
Player H: Jim was great
Player N, III: Excellent
17) Were the meals provided sufficient?:
Player A: Needed more snacks out on the golf course. Possibly breakfast or something. If you had snacks at the turn and at some spot on the golf course I think that would really help
Player B: yes, a few free meals were great, canít ask for more
Player C, S, II: Yes very good.
Player D: The banquet was delicious and plentiful
Players E, F, G, I, K, M, N, P, U, X, Z, III, AA: Yes, yep or yea
Player J: Meal's were ok, but the main dinner on Registration was overpriced for my Dad so he didnít cough up $30 for it.
I think he would have paid $15 but at $30 not a chance.
Player L: Fine, just include the info in the brochure before the event so everyone know what to expect.† Much less hastle for you that way.
Player Q: yes, more than enough
Player T: didn't eat meals
Player V: The food was just OK
Player Y: EXCELLENT food!!!
18) Were the prizes provided appropriate?:
Players A, B, C, F, K, N, P, Q, U, V, Y, Z, III: yes or yup
Player D: didnt get any, but it seemed that there was no money prizes (certs.) for finishing well. If that's the case, I think it'd be nice to be rewarded for good play with needed equipment.
Player E: I would rather receive a gift certificate so I can pick out my own merchandise (instead of the Srixon balls I received).
Player H: I have no idea
Player I:† we don't play for prizes, at least I donít.
Player J: I guess you mean the sleeve of balls and the shirt since thatís all I got. They were special and shall get much use out of the shirt and I gave the balls to my little brother as they werenít my type.
Player M: Ask me when I play good enough to get some
Player S: didnít get any
Player T: prizes are fine
Player X: yea, I was just disappointed I fell out of the top [x]
Player II: yes, nice
Player AA: I thought they were great.
19) Should there be more non-golf functions?:
Player B: honestly i would say yes...only for those who miss the first cut, they might feel left out of tourney...Iíd suggest a horserace or something fun....bowling, whatever
Player C: No not really
Player D: whats the point?
Players E, F, K, Z, III, AA: no
Player H: possibly
Player I:† not really. I thought the hospitality suit was a great idea and enough for non-golf functions
Player J: Only being 18 I donít think I really need anything more to do. Perhaps a skins game should have broken out on the putting green but most these people just finished their rounds and bailed.
Player L: No need
Player M: Maybe, maybe not
Player N: Not Necessarily
Player S: yes... kegs are always welcome
Player T: no more non-golf functions
Player U: no, don't think there would be much of a turn out.
Player V: Not necessarily
Player X: no opinion
Player Y: i thought it was fine
Player II: I enjoyed the hospitality room
20) Did you like the SPC yardage books?:
Player A: definitely
Player B: very very much so......excellent idea, very necessary at bayonet
Player C: That was a very nice touch.
Player D: Yes, but the pin locations lacked an important element- the distance to the edge of the green
Players E, F, G, M, P, V, X, Z: Yes
Player H: most definitely, those were nice
Player I:† they were the best
Player J: Iiked the book but donít think the time you spent to put players names in them was needed. I guess you. I would have just handed them out on first or tenth tee during 1st rd with the scorecards
Player K: very much
Player L: Good, but I would prefer a standard pin sheet as well, to see how far on, from back, from left or right, etc.†
I can do the math with just the standard sheet
Player N: YES, very handy
Player Q: yes, maybe next year put the number for how far the pin is from the side of the green.
Player S: yes.. pin positions could have had the distance from sides of greens
Player T: yardage books were great
Player U: yes, however pin sheets would have been more accurate
Player Y: yes, except I prefer normal pinsheets so you can see how far the pins are from the sides of the green.
Player II: very good
Player III: yes, they were above and beyond what I expected
Player AA: Yes, they were a nice touch.
21) Is the ďHospitality SuiteĒ a good thing?:
Player B: hell yes...a necessity after a shitty round if you know what I mean
Player C: Very
Player D: Yeah, I like the camaraderie it promotes
Player E: I didn't go to the hospitality suite this year, but I think it is probably a good thing.
Players F, G, K, N, P, V: yes
Player H: O yah
Player I:† yes, awesome
Player J: Never went so not sure
Player L: Probably
Player M: Haha God YES
Player Q: of course
Player S: YES.. Kettle One next time
Player T: didn't see hospitality suite but heard it was good
Player U, Z: don't know or did not use
Player X: if people act responsibly
Player Y: ya, that was sweet
Player II: Yes, very different and fun, eased a lot of tension
Player III: Yes, I think it was one of the highlights of coming to the scratch players. The committee is layed back and fun to be around. †††††
"The Hospitality Suite" is something unique to
Player AA: Unfortunalety I did not partake in the suite.
22) Were pre-event communications adequate?:
Players A, C, E, G, H, I, P, S, U, V, X, Z, II, III, AA: yes
Player B: yes, maciels # was available so was fredís
Players D, K: Very
Player F: excellent
Player J: I only got in a couple days prior to event so it was crush time for my dad to get to stuff back to you asap
Player L: fine
Player M: very adequate
Player N: YES, great!!
Player T: communications were good
Player Y: absolutely
23) Were event communications adequate?:
Players A, B, C, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, M, N, P, S, U, V, X, Y, Z, II, III, AA: yes, yup or yeh
Player D: Very
Player T: communications were good
24) Did you like them player photo/bios?:
Player B: yes, kinda cool. can say I looked at them for an hour or so
Players C, F, K, M, N, P, U, V, II, III, AA: Yes.
Player H: kinda
Player J: Yes I liked them and my parents both enjoyed them
Player L: Also, feel free to ask players what to include, they do know more about themselves than you.
Player S: yeh except mine only had 1 thing
Player T: player bios are nice to look over
Player X: yes, except [a certain player]'s was wrong
Player Y: yes, very up to date!
Player Z: did not see
25) Provide any other response not covered?:
Player A: thought it was fun, a good week. in order to get any players to come out west, i think there needs to be less or no cuts. Itís tough to get guys to come out if there is a chance they will only be there for a day. Thanks for the week Fred, I had a great time. See you soon
Player B: please understand i feel strongly about the cut system. i think 1 cut is good.....but hey, i understand that the western amateur does it the same way so i can see why you do it.....also i really did enjoy bayonet and the 6 or 7 players i have talked to since the tourney have felt the same way.†† they all said it was a "10"....do anything possible to get it back there. have a good summer yourself.
Fred - You have the finest field of any tourney in the
Yes, it's the most prestigious amateur tourney in the world.† We all want to play, and hopefully do well.† We also want everyone to know that we played.† Therefore, when we do make it, we buy a few hats and a few shirts.† When we're feeling down about our game, we wear those items with pride, and everybody knows, "whoa, this guy played in the 'Am' ".† If you want your tourney to be one of the finest in the country as opposed to just the western US, give yourself some free publicity.† Have someone design a great looking logo to put on shirts and hats.†
When a guy is wearing it, other guys will say, "I want one of those. How do I get in that tourney.† What's that tourney all about?", etc., etc.
As it is with the shirts this year, not only will I never wear it, I don't think I can even give it away.† For all anybody knows, it stand for Smith's Plumbing Company. Thanks for letting me play.† Worst performance I have ever witnessed.
Player I: just a simple little comment; there needed to be more drinking water on the course. I only saw one water fountain and on the 36 hole day I needed more
Player J: How about allowing multiple qualifier events to try for --------- like let me send in $20 for LA City Q and $20 for Pub Links Q and its sort of like a saver bet and would still require me to come up with the $175 but just gives me another shot at getting in, or I guess I could transfer to Cal.---------this survey was done in part by both me and my dad and since dad is the bank go easy on him ---------Hope to see ya next year and if you have any Tournament Committee merit exemptions available please save me one for 2005!
Player M: I
think maybe if the cut wasn't after the first day, more people would be willing
to travel from southern
Hope to see you next year.
Player N: The event was great and I hope to be back again at next yearís, hopefully at the same venue!!!
Player O: Great tournament, great venue, slow play 1st two rds...., too many players, 12 less would speed up play, and make tournament more exclusive
Player R: As much as I love competition
and playing on the
Player S: you run a great event... wouldnít change much except maybe 2 days for the 36 holes instead of all in 1 day, and please invite me back I will not embarrass myself next year
Player T: You ran a solid event fred, I was happy with the tournament and did not hear any complaints!!
Player U: I wish I would have played better, see you next year!
Player V: You did a great job. Bravo
Player W: Hey Fred, the tournament site was great and in good condition, however, next year I would like to see the rough deeper regardless where the tournament takes place.† Bayonet was a good venue.
Player X: Thanks for a great tournament!
Player Y: it was fun
Player Z: only thing i already told you is on last day let players keep each others score and you don't need mandatory cart.
Player II: I loved the tourney and would love to play again next year
Player III: I
want to thank you again for all your efforts at the
Your tournament is really well run in every regard.† Iím sorry my game was not competitive at the time but I will be back again.† Congratulations on another successful tournament.
Player AA: I think you are doing a great job with the event, I know there is plenty of competition with other tournaments. My only comment would be that if you want more mid-am participation the event would be more successful on the weekend. Talk to you soon.
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